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Patrick McKenzie vs Paweł Huryn

Products, revenue & stack compared side by side.

Patrick McKenzie

patio11: Bingo Card Creator, Appointment Reminder, Stripe Atlas and Bits about Money

@patio11 United States

Paweł Huryn

Warsaw-based author of The Product Compass, a top AI and product management newsletter

@PawelHuryn Poland

Patrick McKenzie vs Paweł Huryn at a glance

Both Patrick McKenzie and Paweł Huryn are solo founders and build in public. They overlap in Creators & Writers and Educators & Course Creators. Patrick is based in Chicago, United States, Paweł in Warsaw, Poland. Patrick started in 2006 and Paweł in 2021. Patrick McKenzie has 5 products listed on IndieMakerList vs Paweł Huryn's 1. Patrick has sold 2 products. On revenue, Patrick self-reports ~$275K/yr sales, ~$200K profit (excl. Appointment Reminder) (as of 2012) and Paweł $126K ARR (as of 2024-11). On X, Patrick has about 201K followers and Paweł about 136K.

Side-by-side comparison

Based in: Patrick McKenzie: Chicago, United States; Paweł Huryn: Warsaw, Poland
Started: Patrick McKenzie: 2006 (20 yrs indie); Paweł Huryn: 2021 (5 yrs indie)
Revenue (self-reported): Patrick McKenzie: ~$275K/yr sales, ~$200K profit (excl. Appointment Reminder)self-reported, as of 2012 · source for Patrick McKenzie's revenue; Paweł Huryn: $126K ARRself-reported, as of 2024-11 · source for Paweł Huryn's revenue
Products listed: Patrick McKenzie: 5; Paweł Huryn: 1
Product status: Patrick McKenzie: 2 active · 2 acquired · 1 shut down; Paweł Huryn: 1 active
X followers: Patrick McKenzie: 201K; Paweł Huryn: 136K
Categories: Patrick McKenzie: SaaS Founders Creators & Writers Fintech & Payments Educators & Course Creators; Paweł Huryn: Creators & Writers Educators & Course Creators
Style: Patrick McKenzie: solobootstrappedbuilds in publicexited; Paweł Huryn: solobuilds in public
Courses & resources: Patrick McKenzie: 5; Paweł Huryn: 4

Revenue figures are self-reported by each maker and not audited; dates and scope differ. Highlighted categories are shared by both.

Tech stack

No tools in common in their publicly listed stacks. See the indie maker tech stack.

Patrick McKenzie

Ruby on RailsTwilioStripe

Paweł Huryn

No stack shared publicly.

How they build

Patrick McKenzie

Charge more — most software businesses dramatically underprice.
SaaS is the best business model ever invented for software.
Being a better marketer than most engineers (and vice versa) is a superpower.
Write prolifically and in public; generous writing compounds into opportunity.
Keep a low personal burn rate so a small business can sustain you indefinitely.

Paweł Huryn

Give actionable playbooks, not theory
Own your audience: newsletters outlast social reach
PMs should build with AI themselves

Learn from Patrick and Paweł

Patrick McKenzie

[newsletter] Bits about Money
[podcast] Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie
[template] Salary Negotiation: Make More Money, Be More Valued
[course] Lifecycle Emails course
[template] Start here if you're new

Paweł Huryn

[newsletter] The Product Compass (premium) · Paid subscription
[course] Continuous Product Discovery Masterclass · Included in premium
[course] How to Craft a Killer PM Resume · Included in premium
[course] AI PM Learning Program · Included in premium

Patrick McKenzie vs Paweł Huryn FAQ

Who makes more money, Patrick McKenzie or Paweł Huryn?

Patrick McKenzie self-reports ~$275K/yr sales, ~$200K profit (excl. Appointment Reminder) (as of 2012) and Paweł Huryn self-reports $126K ARR (as of 2024-11). By these self-reported figures, Patrick McKenzie's reported monthly revenue is higher. Figures are unaudited and may cover different periods or businesses, so treat them as rough indicators.

Who has built more products, Patrick McKenzie or Paweł Huryn?

Patrick McKenzie has 5 products listed (including Bingo Card Creator, Appointment Reminder and Starfighter); Paweł Huryn has 1 product listed (The Product Compass).