Frontend coding-challenge platform where developers practice by rebuilding real UI components.
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Florin Pop vs Patrick McKenzie
Products, revenue & stack compared side by side.
patio11: Bingo Card Creator, Appointment Reminder, Stripe Atlas and Bits about Money
Florin Pop vs Patrick McKenzie at a glance
Both Florin Pop and Patrick McKenzie are bootstrapped solo founders, build in public and have sold at least one product. They overlap in Creators & Writers, Educators & Course Creators and SaaS Founders. Florin is based in Romania, Patrick in Chicago, United States. Florin started in 2019 and Patrick in 2006. Florin Pop has 3 products listed on IndieMakerList vs Patrick McKenzie's 5. Florin has sold 1 product and Patrick 2. On revenue, Florin self-reports $445K lifetime across projects (as of 2026) and Patrick ~$275K/yr sales, ~$200K profit (excl. Appointment Reminder) (as of 2012). On X, Florin has about 203K followers and Patrick about 201K.
Side-by-side comparison
- Based in
- Florin Pop: Romania
- Patrick McKenzie: Chicago, United States
- Started
- Florin Pop: 2019 (7 yrs indie)
- Patrick McKenzie: 2006 (20 yrs indie)
- Revenue (self-reported)
- Florin Pop: $445K lifetime across projectsself-reported, as of 2026 · source for Florin Pop's revenue
- Patrick McKenzie: ~$275K/yr sales, ~$200K profit (excl. Appointment Reminder)self-reported, as of 2012 · source for Patrick McKenzie's revenue
- Products listed
- Florin Pop: 3
- Patrick McKenzie: 5
- Product status
- Florin Pop: 2 active · 1 acquired
- Patrick McKenzie: 2 active · 2 acquired · 1 shut down
- X followers
- Florin Pop: 203K
- Patrick McKenzie: 201K
- Categories
- Florin Pop: Creators & WritersEducators & Course CreatorsSaaS Founders
- Patrick McKenzie: SaaS FoundersCreators & WritersFintech & PaymentsEducators & Course Creators
- Style
- Florin Pop: solobootstrappedbuilds in publicexited
- Patrick McKenzie: solobootstrappedbuilds in publicexited
- Courses & resources
- Florin Pop: 3
- Patrick McKenzie: 5
Revenue figures are self-reported by each maker and not audited; dates and scope differ. Highlighted categories are shared by both.
Top products
Content Copilot
trustmrr.com
Finds Instagram Reels that are outperforming in a niche and gives an AI breakdown of how to adapt each idea.
Indie Action
florin-pop.com
Gamified time-tracking app built to beat procrastination.
Makes custom printable bingo cards for teachers; his first product and public marketing testbed. Sold in 2015.
SaaS that sends appointment reminder calls, texts and emails for professional services businesses. Sold in 2016 via FE International.
Co-founded company that built programming games (like Stockfighter) to identify talented engineers for hiring; shut down in 2016.
Bits about Money
bitsaboutmoney.com
Newsletter on the intersection of technology and finance.
Tech stack
No tools in common in their publicly listed stacks. See the indie maker tech stack.
No stack shared publicly.
How they build
- Share every revenue number publicly to build trust and accountability.
- Leverage an existing audience to launch products quickly.
- Ship scrappy launches straight from a tweet and validate with real sales.
- Quantity of attempts eventually produces quality.
- Charge more — most software businesses dramatically underprice.
- SaaS is the best business model ever invented for software.
- Being a better marketer than most engineers (and vice versa) is a superpower.
- Write prolifically and in public; generous writing compounds into opportunity.
- Keep a low personal burn rate so a small business can sustain you indefinitely.
Learn from Florin and Patrick
- [course] 50 Projects coding course
- [youtube] Florin Pop on YouTube
- [newsletter] Florin Pop Newsletter
- [newsletter] Bits about Money
- [podcast] Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie
- [template] Salary Negotiation: Make More Money, Be More Valued
- [course] Lifecycle Emails course
- [template] Start here if you're new
Florin Pop vs Patrick McKenzie FAQ
Who makes more money, Florin Pop or Patrick McKenzie?
Florin Pop self-reports $445K lifetime across projects (as of 2026) and Patrick McKenzie self-reports ~$275K/yr sales, ~$200K profit (excl. Appointment Reminder) (as of 2012). Figures are unaudited and may cover different periods or businesses, so treat them as rough indicators.
Who has built more products, Florin Pop or Patrick McKenzie?
Florin Pop has 3 products listed (iCodeThis, Content Copilot and Indie Action); Patrick McKenzie has 5 products listed (including Bingo Card Creator, Appointment Reminder and Starfighter).
What tech stack do Florin Pop and Patrick McKenzie use?
Florin Pop hasn't shared a stack. Patrick McKenzie uses Ruby on Rails, Twilio and Stripe. They don't list any tools in common.
Where are Florin Pop and Patrick McKenzie based?
Florin Pop: Romania. Patrick McKenzie: Chicago, United States.
Who has been an indie maker longer, Florin Pop or Patrick McKenzie?
Florin Pop started in 2019 (7 years indie); Patrick McKenzie started in 2006 (20 years indie).
Are Florin Pop and Patrick McKenzie bootstrapped?
Yes, both are listed as bootstrapped founders on IndieMakerList.
Full profiles
Read the full story, timeline and links on Florin Pop's profile and Patrick McKenzie's profile.