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Jay Clouse vs Lenny Rachitsky

Products, revenue & stack compared side by side.

Jay Clouse avatar

Jay Clouse

Founder of Creator Science, teaching creators to build businesses through experiments

Lenny Rachitsky avatar

Lenny Rachitsky

Former Airbnb product lead behind Lenny's Newsletter and Lenny's Podcast

Jay Clouse vs Lenny Rachitsky at a glance

Both Jay Clouse and Lenny Rachitsky are bootstrapped and have sold at least one product. They overlap in Creators & Writers, Community Builders and Acquirers & Indie Investors. Jay is based in Columbus, United States, Lenny in San Francisco Bay Area, United States. Jay started in 2017 and Lenny in 2019. Jay Clouse has 4 products listed on IndieMakerList vs Lenny Rachitsky's 4. Jay has sold 1 product. Lenny self-reports $1M+/yr (newsletter and podcast, each over $500K) (as of 2024); Jay hasn't shared a revenue figure publicly. On X, Jay has about 56K followers and Lenny about 449K.

Side-by-side comparison

Based in
Jay Clouse: Columbus, United States
Lenny Rachitsky: San Francisco Bay Area, United States
Started
Jay Clouse: 2017 (9 yrs indie)
Lenny Rachitsky: 2019 (7 yrs indie)
Revenue (self-reported)
Jay Clouse: Not public
Lenny Rachitsky: $1M+/yr (newsletter and podcast, each over $500K)self-reported, as of 2024 · source for Lenny Rachitsky's revenue
Products listed
Jay Clouse: 4
Lenny Rachitsky: 4
Product status
Jay Clouse: 3 active · 1 acquired
Lenny Rachitsky: 4 active
X followers
Jay Clouse: 56K
Lenny Rachitsky: 449K
Style
Jay Clouse: bootstrappedbuilds in publicexited
Lenny Rachitsky: bootstrappedexited
Courses & resources
Jay Clouse: 5
Lenny Rachitsky: 3

Revenue figures are self-reported by each maker and not audited; dates and scope differ. Highlighted categories are shared by both.

Top products

Jay Clouse avatarJay Clouse

Creator Science logo

Creator Science

creatorscience.com

Newsletter, podcast, YouTube channel and courses teaching creators to build trust-based businesses.

The Lab logo

The Lab

creatorscience.com

Application-based membership community for full-time professional creators.

CreatorHQ logo

CreatorHQ

creatorscience.com

All-in-one Notion workspace and operating system for running a creator business.

Unreal Collective logo

Unreal Collective

creatorscience.com

acquired

Cohort-based virtual accelerator and community for creators, acquired by Smart Passive Income.

Lenny Rachitsky avatarLenny Rachitsky

Lenny's Newsletter logo

Lenny's Newsletter

lennysnewsletter.com

Weekly deeply researched advice on product, growth and careers with a paid tier and private community.

Lenny's Podcast logo

Lenny's Podcast

lennysnewsletter.com

Interview show with product leaders, founders and operators.

Lenny's Jobs logo

Lenny's Jobs

lennysjobs.com

Job board for product, growth and tech roles aimed at the newsletter audience.

Lenny's Product Pass logo

Lenny's Product Pass

lennysproductpass.com

Bundle giving annual subscribers free access to a set of premium software tools.

Tech stack

No tools in common in their publicly listed stacks. See the indie maker tech stack.

Jay Clouse avatarJay Clouse

No stack shared publicly.

Lenny Rachitsky avatarLenny Rachitsky

No stack shared publicly.

How they build

Jay Clouse avatarJay Clouse

  • Everything you publish is an experiment you can learn from.
  • Trust, not attention, is the real currency of a creator business.
  • Sustainable pacing beats hustle-culture burnout.
  • Build a signature product designed for your specific audience.
  • Focus on creating community, not just building an audience.

Lenny Rachitsky avatarLenny Rachitsky

  • Quality and consistency are the keys to building an audience.
  • A few deeply researched tentpole pieces can matter more than volume.
  • Write for a specific audience that lacks a home publication.
  • Keep free content genuinely useful because it markets the paid work.

Learn from Jay and Lenny

Jay Clouse vs Lenny Rachitsky FAQ

Who makes more money, Jay Clouse or Lenny Rachitsky?

Lenny Rachitsky self-reports $1M+/yr (newsletter and podcast, each over $500K) (as of 2024). Jay Clouse's revenue is not public, so a direct comparison isn't possible.

Who has built more products, Jay Clouse or Lenny Rachitsky?

Jay Clouse has 4 products listed (including Creator Science, The Lab and CreatorHQ); Lenny Rachitsky has 4 products listed (including Lenny's Newsletter, Lenny's Podcast and Lenny's Jobs).

Where are Jay Clouse and Lenny Rachitsky based?

Jay Clouse: Columbus, United States. Lenny Rachitsky: San Francisco Bay Area, United States.

Who has been an indie maker longer, Jay Clouse or Lenny Rachitsky?

Jay Clouse started in 2017 (9 years indie); Lenny Rachitsky started in 2019 (7 years indie).

Are Jay Clouse and Lenny Rachitsky bootstrapped?

Yes, both are listed as bootstrapped founders on IndieMakerList.

Full profiles

Read the full story, timeline and links on Jay Clouse's profile and Lenny Rachitsky's profile.

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