Creator Science
creatorscience.com
Newsletter, podcast, YouTube channel and courses teaching creators to build trust-based businesses.
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Jay Clouse vs Justin Jackson
Products, revenue & stack compared side by side.
Founder of Creator Science, teaching creators to build businesses through experiments
@jayclouse United States
Co-founder and CEO of Transistor.fm, the bootstrapped 'calm company' for podcast hosting
@mijustin Canada
Jay Clouse vs Justin Jackson at a glance
Both Jay Clouse and Justin Jackson are bootstrapped, build in public and have sold at least one product. They overlap in Creators & Writers, Educators & Course Creators and Community Builders. Jay is based in Columbus, United States, Justin in Vernon, Canada. Jay started in 2017 and Justin in 2013. Jay Clouse has 4 products listed on IndieMakerList vs Justin Jackson's 5. Jay has sold 1 product and Justin the same number. On X, Jay has about 56K followers and Justin about 38K.
Side-by-side comparison
- Based in
- Jay Clouse: Columbus, United States
- Justin Jackson: Vernon, Canada
- Started
- Jay Clouse: 2017 (9 yrs indie)
- Justin Jackson: 2013 (13 yrs indie)
- Revenue (self-reported)
- Jay Clouse: Not public
- Justin Jackson: Not public
- Products listed
- Jay Clouse: 4
- Justin Jackson: 5
- Product status
- Jay Clouse: 3 active · 1 acquired
- Justin Jackson: 4 active · 1 acquired
- X followers
- Jay Clouse: 56K
- Justin Jackson: 38K
- Categories
- Jay Clouse: Creators & WritersEducators & Course CreatorsCommunity BuildersAcquirers & Indie Investors
- Justin Jackson: SaaS FoundersCreators & WritersEducators & Course CreatorsCommunity Builders
- Style
- Jay Clouse: bootstrappedbuilds in publicexited
- Justin Jackson: duobootstrappedbuilds in publicexited
- Courses & resources
- Jay Clouse: 5
- Justin Jackson: 6
Revenue figures are self-reported by each maker and not audited; dates and scope differ. Highlighted categories are shared by both.
Top products
The Lab
creatorscience.com
Application-based membership community for full-time professional creators.
CreatorHQ
creatorscience.com
All-in-one Notion workspace and operating system for running a creator business.
Cohort-based virtual accelerator and community for creators, acquired by Smart Passive Income.
Transistor.fm
transistor.fm
Podcast hosting and analytics platform for indie podcasters, businesses and private podcasts, co-founded with Jon Buda.
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MegaMaker
megamaker.co
Community and resources for bootstrappers and indie makers, running since 2013.
Marketing for Developers
devmarketing.xyz
Book and course teaching programmers how to launch and market their products.
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Meeps
meeps.app
Platform for membership sites, built in collaboration with Josh Anderton.
Tech stack
No tools in common in their publicly listed stacks. See the indie maker tech stack.
No stack shared publicly.
No stack shared publicly.
How they build
- Everything you publish is an experiment you can learn from.
- Trust, not attention, is the real currency of a creator business.
- Sustainable pacing beats hustle-culture burnout.
- Build a signature product designed for your specific audience.
- Focus on creating community, not just building an audience.
- Build a calm company: profitable, purposeful and good to customers and team.
- Sometimes say no to big customers whose demands would pull you away from your core users.
- Market to a big enough audience — tiny niches can cap a product's potential.
- Share the journey openly; transparency builds trust and an audience.
- Great customer support is a growth engine, not a cost center.
Learn from Jay and Justin
- [newsletter] Creator Science newsletter
- [podcast] Creator Science podcast
- [youtube] Jay Clouse on YouTube
- [course] Creator Science courses
- [template] CreatorHQ · $297
- [podcast] Build Your SaaS
- [course] Marketing for Developers
- [book] Jolt: surprising marketing tactics for product people
- [community] MegaMaker
- [podcast] Build & Launch
- [newsletter] Justin Jackson's newsletter
Jay Clouse vs Justin Jackson FAQ
Who makes more money, Jay Clouse or Justin Jackson?
Neither Jay Clouse nor Justin Jackson has publicly reported a revenue figure that IndieMakerList tracks, so it's not public.
Who has built more products, Jay Clouse or Justin Jackson?
Jay Clouse has 4 products listed (including Creator Science, The Lab and CreatorHQ); Justin Jackson has 5 products listed (including Transistor.fm, MegaMaker and Marketing for Developers).
Where are Jay Clouse and Justin Jackson based?
Jay Clouse: Columbus, United States. Justin Jackson: Vernon, Canada.
Who has been an indie maker longer, Jay Clouse or Justin Jackson?
Jay Clouse started in 2017 (9 years indie); Justin Jackson started in 2013 (13 years indie).
Are Jay Clouse and Justin Jackson bootstrapped?
Yes, both are listed as bootstrapped founders on IndieMakerList.
Full profiles
Read the full story, timeline and links on Jay Clouse's profile and Justin Jackson's profile.
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