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Jay Clouse vs Kevon Cheung

Products, revenue & stack compared side by side.

Jay Clouse avatar

Jay Clouse

Founder of Creator Science, teaching creators to build businesses through experiments

Kevon Cheung avatar

Kevon Cheung

Hong Kong educator who taught building in public, now building AI learning tools for kids

Jay Clouse vs Kevon Cheung at a glance

Both Jay Clouse and Kevon Cheung are bootstrapped and build in public. They overlap in Creators & Writers, Educators & Course Creators and Community Builders. Jay is based in Columbus, United States, Kevon in Hong Kong. Jay started in 2017 and Kevon in 2020. Jay Clouse has 4 products listed on IndieMakerList vs Kevon Cheung's 3. Jay has sold 1 product. On X, Jay has about 56K followers and Kevon about 25K.

Side-by-side comparison

Based in
Jay Clouse: Columbus, United States
Kevon Cheung: Hong Kong
Started
Jay Clouse: 2017 (9 yrs indie)
Kevon Cheung: 2020 (6 yrs indie)
Revenue (self-reported)
Jay Clouse: Not public
Kevon Cheung: Not public
Products listed
Jay Clouse: 4
Kevon Cheung: 3
Product status
Jay Clouse: 3 active · 1 acquired
Kevon Cheung: 3 active
X followers
Jay Clouse: 56K
Kevon Cheung: 25K
Style
Jay Clouse: bootstrappedbuilds in publicexited
Kevon Cheung: solobootstrappedbuilds in public
Courses & resources
Jay Clouse: 5
Kevon Cheung: 5

Revenue figures are self-reported by each maker and not audited; dates and scope differ. Highlighted categories are shared by both.

Top products

Jay Clouse avatarJay Clouse

Creator Science logo

Creator Science

creatorscience.com

Newsletter, podcast, YouTube channel and courses teaching creators to build trust-based businesses.

The Lab logo

The Lab

creatorscience.com

Application-based membership community for full-time professional creators.

CreatorHQ logo

CreatorHQ

creatorscience.com

All-in-one Notion workspace and operating system for running a creator business.

Unreal Collective logo

Unreal Collective

creatorscience.com

acquired

Cohort-based virtual accelerator and community for creators, acquired by Smart Passive Income.

Kevon Cheung avatarKevon Cheung

Public Lab logo

Public Lab

publiclab.co

Education company, originally a build-in-public school for entrepreneurs, now building AI-powered learning products for children.

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Chatty Bestie

chattybestie.com

AI best-friend app that helps children aged 3-8 practise spoken English, with progress reports for parents.

AlphaStage logo

AlphaStage

alphastage.org

Creative studio running project-based programmes such as 1-1 mentorship and Young Author Camps for Generation Alpha.

Tech stack

No tools in common in their publicly listed stacks. See the indie maker tech stack.

Jay Clouse avatarJay Clouse

No stack shared publicly.

Kevon Cheung avatarKevon Cheung

No stack shared publicly.

How they build

Jay Clouse avatarJay Clouse

  • Everything you publish is an experiment you can learn from.
  • Trust, not attention, is the real currency of a creator business.
  • Sustainable pacing beats hustle-culture burnout.
  • Build a signature product designed for your specific audience.
  • Focus on creating community, not just building an audience.

Kevon Cheung avatarKevon Cheung

  • Share the real journey, not polished marketing stories.
  • Build relationships first; audience growth follows.
  • Make it easy for opportunities to find you by being visible online.
  • Put family first and design work around it.
  • Learning works best when shaped around a child's own interests.

Learn from Jay and Kevon

Jay Clouse vs Kevon Cheung FAQ

Who makes more money, Jay Clouse or Kevon Cheung?

Neither Jay Clouse nor Kevon Cheung has publicly reported a revenue figure that IndieMakerList tracks, so it's not public.

Who has built more products, Jay Clouse or Kevon Cheung?

Jay Clouse has 4 products listed (including Creator Science, The Lab and CreatorHQ); Kevon Cheung has 3 products listed (Public Lab, Chatty Bestie and AlphaStage).

Where are Jay Clouse and Kevon Cheung based?

Jay Clouse: Columbus, United States. Kevon Cheung: Hong Kong.

Who has been an indie maker longer, Jay Clouse or Kevon Cheung?

Jay Clouse started in 2017 (9 years indie); Kevon Cheung started in 2020 (6 years indie).

Are Jay Clouse and Kevon Cheung bootstrapped?

Yes, both are listed as bootstrapped founders on IndieMakerList.

Full profiles

Read the full story, timeline and links on Jay Clouse's profile and Kevon Cheung's profile.

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