Draft.dev
draft.dev
Technical content agency that writes developer-focused articles for software and devtools companies.
$2.5M+ in 2022
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Karl Hughes vs Pierre de Wulf
Products, revenue & stack compared side by side.
Karl Hughes vs Pierre de Wulf at a glance
Both Karl Hughes and Pierre de Wulf are bootstrapped. They overlap in Acquirers & Indie Investors and Developer Tools. Karl is based in Chicago, United States, Pierre in France. Karl started in 2020 and Pierre in 2019. Karl Hughes has 3 products listed on IndieMakerList vs Pierre de Wulf's 2. Pierre has sold 1 product. On revenue, Karl self-reports $2.5M/yr (Draft.dev, 2022) and Pierre ~$5M ARR (at exit) (as of 2025). On X, Karl has about 3.8K followers and Pierre about 38K.
Side-by-side comparison
- Based in
- Karl Hughes: Chicago, United States
- Pierre de Wulf: France
- Started
- Karl Hughes: 2020 (6 yrs indie)
- Pierre de Wulf: 2019 (7 yrs indie)
- Revenue (self-reported)
- Karl Hughes: $2.5M/yr (Draft.dev, 2022)self-reported, as of 2022 · source for Karl Hughes's revenue
- Pierre de Wulf: ~$5M ARR (at exit)self-reported, as of 2025 · source for Pierre de Wulf's revenue
- Products listed
- Karl Hughes: 3
- Pierre de Wulf: 2
- Product status
- Karl Hughes: 3 active
- Pierre de Wulf: 0 active · 1 acquired · 1 shut down
- X followers
- Karl Hughes: 3.8K
- Pierre de Wulf: 38K
- Categories
- Karl Hughes: Productized ServicesAcquirers & Indie InvestorsDeveloper Tools
- Pierre de Wulf: Developer ToolsSaaS FoundersAcquirers & Indie Investors
- Style
- Karl Hughes: bootstrappedserial maker
- Pierre de Wulf: duobootstrappedbuilds in publicexited
- Courses & resources
- Karl Hughes: 3
- Pierre de Wulf: —
Revenue figures are self-reported by each maker and not audited; dates and scope differ. Highlighted categories are shared by both.
Top products
The Podcast Consultant
thepodcastconsultant.com
Podcast editing and production service for financial and business podcasts, acquired in 2023.
Rise25
rise25.com
Done-for-you B2B podcast service that helps founders use podcasts for growth and networking.
Web scraping API that handles headless browsers, proxies and anti-bot measures.
Price-monitoring service for e-commerce stores, co-founded with Kevin Sahin.
Tech stack
No tools in common in their publicly listed stacks. See the indie maker tech stack.
No stack shared publicly.
No stack shared publicly.
How they build
- Productized services can scale into substantial businesses without venture capital.
- Buying an existing service business gives you a running company on day one.
- Protect margins through disciplined service fulfillment.
- Build a business you can sustain to avoid founder burnout.
- Win customers with genuinely useful technical content and SEO.
- Talk to users early, even by trading free credits for calls.
- Stay in control rather than chasing growth at all costs.
Learn from Karl and Pierre
- [podcast] Retained Trust
- [newsletter] Karl Hughes newsletter
- [book] The Agency Valuation Handbook · Free
No courses, books or communities listed.
Karl Hughes vs Pierre de Wulf FAQ
Who makes more money, Karl Hughes or Pierre de Wulf?
Karl Hughes self-reports $2.5M/yr (Draft.dev, 2022) and Pierre de Wulf self-reports ~$5M ARR (at exit) (as of 2025). By these self-reported figures, Pierre de Wulf's reported monthly revenue is higher. Figures are unaudited and may cover different periods or businesses, so treat them as rough indicators.
Who has built more products, Karl Hughes or Pierre de Wulf?
Karl Hughes has 3 products listed (Draft.dev, The Podcast Consultant and Rise25); Pierre de Wulf has 2 products listed (ScrapingBee and PricingBot).
Where are Karl Hughes and Pierre de Wulf based?
Karl Hughes: Chicago, United States. Pierre de Wulf: France.
Who has been an indie maker longer, Karl Hughes or Pierre de Wulf?
Karl Hughes started in 2020 (6 years indie); Pierre de Wulf started in 2019 (7 years indie).
Are Karl Hughes and Pierre de Wulf bootstrapped?
Yes, both are listed as bootstrapped founders on IndieMakerList.
Full profiles
Read the full story, timeline and links on Karl Hughes's profile and Pierre de Wulf's profile.
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