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Matt Pocock vs Simon Willison

Products, revenue & stack compared side by side.

Matt Pocock avatar

Matt Pocock

TypeScript and AI engineering educator behind Total TypeScript and AI Hero

Simon Willison avatar

Simon Willison

Independent open-source developer behind Datasette, LLM and a widely read AI weblog

Matt Pocock vs Simon Willison at a glance

Matt Pocock and Simon Willison are both indie makers listed on IndieMakerList. They overlap in AI Builders, Developer Tools and Open Source Makers. Matt is based in Oxford, United Kingdom, Simon in San Francisco, United States. Matt started in 2022 and Simon in 2019. Matt Pocock has 6 products listed on IndieMakerList vs Simon Willison's 5. Simon has sold 1 product. On X, Matt has about 374K followers and Simon about 241K.

Side-by-side comparison

Based in
Matt Pocock: Oxford, United Kingdom
Simon Willison: San Francisco, United States
Started
Matt Pocock: 2022 (4 yrs indie)
Simon Willison: 2019 (7 yrs indie)
Revenue (self-reported)
Matt Pocock: Not public
Simon Willison: Not public
Products listed
Matt Pocock: 6
Simon Willison: 5
Product status
Matt Pocock: 6 active
Simon Willison: 4 active · 1 acquired
X followers
Matt Pocock: 374K
Simon Willison: 241K
Style
Matt Pocock: —
Simon Willison: solobuilds in publicexited
Courses & resources
Matt Pocock: 7
Simon Willison: 1

Revenue figures are self-reported by each maker and not audited; dates and scope differ. Highlighted categories are shared by both.

Top products

Matt Pocock avatarMatt Pocock

AI Hero logo

AI Hero

aihero.dev

AI engineering education for web developers, with free guides, an email course, agent skills and a paid cohort.

Total TypeScript logo

Total TypeScript

totaltypescript.com

Exercise-driven professional TypeScript training covering generics, type transformations and advanced library patterns.

ts-reset logo

ts-reset

github.com

Open-source library that tightens TypeScript's built-in typings, such as making JSON.parse return unknown.

Evalite logo

Evalite

evalite.dev

Vitest-based framework for evaluating AI applications in TypeScript with a local UI for outputs and traces.

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Simon Willison avatarSimon Willison

Datasette logo

Datasette

datasette.io

Open-source tool for exploring, analyzing and publishing data as interactive websites and APIs.

LLM logo

LLM

llm.datasette.io

Command-line tool and Python library for running prompts against many large language models.

sqlite-utils logo

sqlite-utils

sqlite-utils.datasette.io

Python library and CLI for creating and manipulating SQLite databases.

L

Lanyrd

simonwillison.net

acquired

Social conference directory he co-founded with Natalie Downe; backed by Y Combinator and acquired by Eventbrite in 2013.

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Tech stack

No tools in common in their publicly listed stacks. See the indie maker tech stack.

Matt Pocock avatarMatt Pocock

TypeScriptXStateVitest

Simon Willison avatarSimon Willison

PythonSQLiteDjango

How they build

Matt Pocock avatarMatt Pocock

  • Let learners struggle with a concrete problem before showing the solution.
  • Faster code generation makes good software design more valuable, not less.
  • Build in thin vertical slices with tight feedback loops like types, tests and reviews.
  • Prefer deep modules with simple interfaces so both humans and agents can reason about the code.
  • Give away high-quality free material and sell the deeper training.

Simon Willison avatarSimon Willison

  • Write up everything you learn in public.
  • Build many small, composable tools and plugins.
  • Treat LLMs as tools to experiment with hands-on.

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Matt Pocock vs Simon Willison FAQ

Who makes more money, Matt Pocock or Simon Willison?

Neither Matt Pocock nor Simon Willison has publicly reported a revenue figure that IndieMakerList tracks, so it's not public.

Who has built more products, Matt Pocock or Simon Willison?

Matt Pocock has 6 products listed (including AI Hero, Total TypeScript and ts-reset); Simon Willison has 5 products listed (including Datasette, LLM and sqlite-utils).

What tech stack do Matt Pocock and Simon Willison use?

Matt Pocock uses TypeScript, XState and Vitest. Simon Willison uses Python, SQLite and Django. They don't list any tools in common.

Where are Matt Pocock and Simon Willison based?

Matt Pocock: Oxford, United Kingdom. Simon Willison: San Francisco, United States.

Who has been an indie maker longer, Matt Pocock or Simon Willison?

Matt Pocock started in 2022 (4 years indie); Simon Willison started in 2019 (7 years indie).

Are Matt Pocock and Simon Willison bootstrapped?

Neither is tagged as bootstrapped on IndieMakerList; see their profiles for how each funds their work.

Full profiles

Read the full story, timeline and links on Matt Pocock's profile and Simon Willison's profile.

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