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Matt Pocock vs Mckay Wrigley

Products, revenue & stack compared side by side.

Matt Pocock avatar

Matt Pocock

TypeScript and AI engineering educator behind Total TypeScript and AI Hero

Mckay Wrigley avatar

Mckay Wrigley

Builds and teaches AI coding; creator of Chatbot UI and founder of Takeoff

@mckaywrigley

Matt Pocock vs Mckay Wrigley at a glance

Matt Pocock and Mckay Wrigley are both indie makers listed on IndieMakerList. They overlap in Educators & Course Creators, AI Builders and Open Source Makers. Matt started in 2022 and Mckay in 2023. Matt Pocock has 6 products listed on IndieMakerList vs Mckay Wrigley's 4. They share 1 tool in their stacks: TypeScript. On X, Matt has about 368K followers and Mckay about 228K.

Side-by-side comparison

Based in
Matt Pocock: Oxford, United Kingdom
Mckay Wrigley: —
Started
Matt Pocock: 2022 (4 yrs indie)
Mckay Wrigley: 2023 (3 yrs indie)
Revenue (self-reported)
Matt Pocock: Not public
Mckay Wrigley: Not public
Products listed
Matt Pocock: 6
Mckay Wrigley: 4
Product status
Matt Pocock: 6 active
Mckay Wrigley: 4 active
X followers
Matt Pocock: 368K
Mckay Wrigley: 228K
Style
Matt Pocock: —
Mckay Wrigley: bootstrappedbuilds in public
Courses & resources
Matt Pocock: 7
Mckay Wrigley: 2

Revenue figures are self-reported by each maker and not audited; dates and scope differ. Highlighted categories are shared by both.

Top products

Matt Pocock avatarMatt Pocock

AI Hero logo

AI Hero

aihero.dev

AI engineering education for web developers, with free guides, an email course, agent skills and a paid cohort.

Total TypeScript logo

Total TypeScript

totaltypescript.com

Exercise-driven professional TypeScript training covering generics, type transformations and advanced library patterns.

ts-reset logo

ts-reset

github.com

Open-source library that tightens TypeScript's built-in typings, such as making JSON.parse return unknown.

Evalite logo

Evalite

evalite.dev

Vitest-based framework for evaluating AI applications in TypeScript with a local UI for outputs and traces.

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Mckay Wrigley avatarMckay Wrigley

Takeoff / MagicLearn logo

Takeoff / MagicLearn

jointakeoff.com

Expert-led video courses that teach AI-assisted coding to beginners and teams.

Chatbot UI logo

Chatbot UI

github.com

Open-source AI chat interface that works with any model; one of the most-starred AI chat repos on GitHub.

The open-source template he uses to kick off new full-stack AI projects.

Uses AI to translate code from one programming language to another.

Tech stack

1 shared tool, marked with ★: TypeScript. See the indie maker tech stack.

Matt Pocock avatarMatt Pocock

TypeScript (shared)XStateVitest

Mckay Wrigley avatarMckay Wrigley

Next.js TypeScript (shared)SupabaseCursorClaude Code

How they build

Matt Pocock avatarMatt Pocock

  • Let learners struggle with a concrete problem before showing the solution.
  • Faster code generation makes good software design more valuable, not less.
  • Build in thin vertical slices with tight feedback loops like types, tests and reviews.
  • Prefer deep modules with simple interfaces so both humans and agents can reason about the code.
  • Give away high-quality free material and sell the deeper training.

Mckay Wrigley avatarMckay Wrigley

  • Learn by building real projects with AI rather than reading about it.
  • Open-source your tools and templates to build trust and reach.
  • Treat coding agents as general-purpose agents, not just autocomplete.
  • Anyone can learn to build software now, with no prior experience.

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Matt Pocock vs Mckay Wrigley FAQ

Who makes more money, Matt Pocock or Mckay Wrigley?

Neither Matt Pocock nor Mckay Wrigley has publicly reported a revenue figure that IndieMakerList tracks, so it's not public.

Who has built more products, Matt Pocock or Mckay Wrigley?

Matt Pocock has 6 products listed (including AI Hero, Total TypeScript and ts-reset); Mckay Wrigley has 4 products listed (including Takeoff / MagicLearn, Chatbot UI and Mckay's App Template).

What tech stack do Matt Pocock and Mckay Wrigley use?

Matt Pocock uses TypeScript, XState and Vitest. Mckay Wrigley uses Next.js, TypeScript, Supabase, Cursor and Claude Code. Tools they have in common: TypeScript.

Where are Matt Pocock and Mckay Wrigley based?

Matt Pocock: Oxford, United Kingdom. Mckay Wrigley: not listed.

Who has been an indie maker longer, Matt Pocock or Mckay Wrigley?

Matt Pocock started in 2022 (4 years indie); Mckay Wrigley started in 2023 (3 years indie).

Are Matt Pocock and Mckay Wrigley bootstrapped?

Mckay Wrigley is listed as bootstrapped; Matt Pocock isn't tagged as bootstrapped on IndieMakerList.

Full profiles

Read the full story, timeline and links on Matt Pocock's profile and Mckay Wrigley's profile.

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