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Subscription learning platform with courses on design, front-end and iOS development, and AI-assisted design.
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Meng To vs Steve Schoger
Products, revenue & stack compared side by side.
Meng To vs Steve Schoger at a glance
Meng To and Steve Schoger are both indie makers listed on IndieMakerList. They overlap in Educators & Course Creators and Design Tools. Meng is based in Singapore, Steve in Kitchener, Canada. Meng To has 6 products listed on IndieMakerList vs Steve Schoger's 5. Steve has sold 1 product. They share 2 tools in their stacks: Figma and Tailwind CSS. On X, Meng has about 189K followers and Steve about 128K.
Side-by-side comparison
- Based in
- Meng To: Singapore
- Steve Schoger: Kitchener, Canada
- Started
- Meng To: 2014 (12 yrs indie)
- Steve Schoger: —
- Revenue (self-reported)
- Meng To: Not public
- Steve Schoger: Not public
- Products listed
- Meng To: 6
- Steve Schoger: 5
- Product status
- Meng To: 6 active
- Steve Schoger: 4 active · 1 acquired
- X followers
- Meng To: 189K
- Steve Schoger: 128K
- Categories
- Meng To: Educators & Course CreatorsDesign ToolsAI Builders
- Steve Schoger: Design ToolsEducators & Course CreatorsOpen Source Makers
- Style
- Meng To: bootstrappedserial maker
- Steve Schoger: duoexited
- Courses & resources
- Meng To: 2
- Steve Schoger: 2
Revenue figures are self-reported by each maker and not audited; dates and scope differ. Highlighted categories are shared by both.
Top products
Aura
aura.build
AI website builder for designers that generates, remixes and exports landing pages and UI templates.
Spring
github.com
Open-source Swift library that simplifies iOS animations.
Angle
angle.sh
Library of thousands of customizable device mockups for Figma, Sketch and XD.
Refactoring UI
refactoringui.com
Design book and video course for developers, co-created with Adam Wathan.
~$600K in 2020
Premium Tailwind components, templates and UI kits he helped design at Tailwind Labs.
Heroicons
heroicons.com
Free, MIT-licensed SVG icon set designed for Tailwind Labs.
H
Hero Patterns
heropatterns.com
Free collection of repeatable SVG background patterns.
Tech stack
2 shared tools, marked with ★: Figma, Tailwind CSS. See the indie maker tech stack.
SwiftSwiftUIReact Figma (shared)three.js Tailwind CSS (shared)
Figma (shared) Tailwind CSS (shared)Claude Code
How they build
- Designers don't need to code like engineers but should understand how code works.
- Prototype in the real medium so design work makes it into the final product.
- Teach by building real projects step by step.
- Keep adapting the curriculum to whatever tools designers are adopting next.
- Design is learnable: specific tactics beat vague talent.
- Start with function and hierarchy before visual polish.
- Show, don't tell — before-and-after examples teach fastest.
- Use constrained systems for spacing, type and color instead of picking values ad hoc.
Learn from Meng and Steve
- [course] Design+Code courses
- [book] Design+Code: From Sketch to Xcode
- [book] Refactoring UI · $99–$149
- [youtube] Steve Schoger on YouTube
Meng To vs Steve Schoger FAQ
Who makes more money, Meng To or Steve Schoger?
Neither Meng To nor Steve Schoger has publicly reported a revenue figure that IndieMakerList tracks, so it's not public.
Who has built more products, Meng To or Steve Schoger?
Meng To has 6 products listed (including Design+Code, Aura and Spring); Steve Schoger has 5 products listed (including Refactoring UI, Tailwind Plus (formerly Tailwind UI) and Heroicons).
What tech stack do Meng To and Steve Schoger use?
Meng To uses Swift, SwiftUI, React, Figma, three.js and Tailwind CSS. Steve Schoger uses Figma, Tailwind CSS and Claude Code. Tools they have in common: Figma and Tailwind CSS.
Where are Meng To and Steve Schoger based?
Meng To: Singapore. Steve Schoger: Kitchener, Canada.
Who has been an indie maker longer, Meng To or Steve Schoger?
Meng To started in 2014 (12 years indie); Steve Schoger's start year isn't listed.
Are Meng To and Steve Schoger bootstrapped?
Meng To is listed as bootstrapped; Steve Schoger isn't tagged as bootstrapped on IndieMakerList.
Full profiles
Read the full story, timeline and links on Meng To's profile and Steve Schoger's profile.
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