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Derek Yu vs Justin Stander

Products, revenue & stack compared side by side.

Derek Yu avatar

Derek Yu

Indie game designer behind Spelunky, Spelunky 2 and UFO 50, founder of Mossmouth

Justin Stander avatar

Justin Stander

Creator of Katana Zero, made largely solo under the name Askiisoft

Derek Yu vs Justin Stander at a glance

Both Derek Yu and Justin Stander are bootstrapped. They overlap in Indie Game Makers. Derek is based in Los Angeles, United States, Justin in United States. Derek started in 2002 and Justin in 2009. Derek Yu has 6 products listed on IndieMakerList vs Justin Stander's 2. They share 1 tool in their stacks: GameMaker. On X, Derek has about 59K followers and Justin about 50K.

Side-by-side comparison

Based in
Derek Yu: Los Angeles, United States
Justin Stander: United States
Started
Derek Yu: 2002 (24 yrs indie)
Justin Stander: 2009 (17 yrs indie)
Revenue (self-reported)
Derek Yu: Not public
Justin Stander: Not public
Products listed
Derek Yu: 6
Justin Stander: 2
Product status
Derek Yu: 6 active
Justin Stander: 2 active
X followers
Derek Yu: 59K
Justin Stander: 50K
Categories
Derek Yu: Indie Game Makers
Justin Stander: Indie Game Makers
Style
Derek Yu: bootstrapped
Justin Stander: solobootstrapped
Courses & resources
Derek Yu: 3
Justin Stander: —

Revenue figures are self-reported by each maker and not audited; dates and scope differ. Highlighted categories are shared by both.

Top products

Derek Yu avatarDerek Yu

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Spelunky

spelunkyworld.com

Roguelike cave-exploring platformer with procedurally generated levels; free original in 2008, HD remake in 2012.

Spelunky 2 logo

Spelunky 2

mossmouth.com

Sequel to Spelunky set on the Moon, with deeper systems and online multiplayer.

UFO 50 logo

UFO 50

50games.fun

Collection of 50 original single and multiplayer games styled as the library of a fictional 8-bit console maker.

Aquaria logo

Aquaria

bit-blot.com

Underwater exploration action-adventure co-created with Alec Holowka as Bit Blot.

See all 6 products by Derek Yu →

Justin Stander avatarJustin Stander

Katana Zero logo

Katana Zero

store.steampowered.com

Neo-noir action platformer about a time-manipulating samurai assassin.

500K copies in under a year
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Tower of Heaven

askiisoft.com

Freeware precision platformer whose rules grow stricter as you climb.

Tech stack

1 shared tool, marked with ★: GameMaker. See the indie maker tech stack.

Derek Yu avatarDerek Yu

GameMaker (shared)

Justin Stander avatarJustin Stander

GameMaker (shared)

How they build

Derek Yu avatarDerek Yu

  • Finishing a game matters more than starting one; protect momentum and cut scope to ship.
  • Procedural generation and tight rules can create endless emergent stories.
  • Make small prototypes and freeware first, then polish the ideas that stick.
  • Building community around indie games helps everyone in the scene.

Justin Stander avatarJustin Stander

  • Difficult but fair: players should own their mistakes.
  • Never make players wait through dialogue.
  • Polish every mechanic until it feels flawless.

Learn from Derek and Justin

Justin Stander avatarJustin Stander

No courses, books or communities listed.

Derek Yu vs Justin Stander FAQ

Who makes more money, Derek Yu or Justin Stander?

Neither Derek Yu nor Justin Stander has publicly reported a revenue figure that IndieMakerList tracks, so it's not public.

Who has built more products, Derek Yu or Justin Stander?

Derek Yu has 6 products listed (including Spelunky, Spelunky 2 and UFO 50); Justin Stander has 2 products listed (Katana Zero and Tower of Heaven).

What tech stack do Derek Yu and Justin Stander use?

Derek Yu uses GameMaker. Justin Stander uses GameMaker. Tools they have in common: GameMaker.

Where are Derek Yu and Justin Stander based?

Derek Yu: Los Angeles, United States. Justin Stander: United States.

Who has been an indie maker longer, Derek Yu or Justin Stander?

Derek Yu started in 2002 (24 years indie); Justin Stander started in 2009 (17 years indie).

Are Derek Yu and Justin Stander bootstrapped?

Yes, both are listed as bootstrapped founders on IndieMakerList.

Full profiles

Read the full story, timeline and links on Derek Yu's profile and Justin Stander's profile.

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